Rule Change Proposals: Rosters and Scoring
I feel like a lot has been leading up to this last bit of proposals which mostly revolve around
Here's the full list before I spend more pixels on kickers.
1) Eliminate the Kicker / Add 3rd WR / Otherwise Tweak Scoring?
2) Account for the Yardage Lost During a Sack in Defensive Points
1) Eliminate the Kicker / Add 3rd WR
If we removed kickers there are a couple of things we would have to consider. Perhaps the most important would be trying to keep our historical balance between offense and defense. Kickers may be silly but they are also a pretty consistent source of 8 points every week and I don't think we want to increase the frequency of 0-0 ties.
My proposal for how to make up that point potential is to add a 3rd WR spot to the starting roster and increase the value of receiving yards (also increasing the cutoff for bonus receiving yard points). Based on scores from that last 2 years that would increase median RB points from 8.8 to 10 and WR points from 4.8 to 7.5. Lets assume that the 3rd WR would be worth less than 7.5 because we are dipping deeper into the talent pool but we still end up more than making up for the lost scoring.
These scoring changes would also do a couple other interesting things: a) It would bring QBs, RBs, and WRs much closer in value which might give more teams more ways to construct their team for success. b) It would smooth out that weird double bump in WR scores I noted last week. The new distribution looks a lot more like a long-tail although we'd be adding a lot more data points to this chart so that might change it some as well.
The RB curve did not change much. It just shifted up a little.
Finally, I think there is a lot of depth at the WR position these days. I don't sense that teams have much trouble finding at least passable WRs and I don't see much of an active market for top end WRs either. Basically I think the supply of WRs is bigger than the demand and this would increase demand.
Obviously we could tweak the details of scoring to get things right where we want. Including tweaking defensive scoring as needed or desired.
Alternately, if we wanted that extra position to be a flex position (RB/WR) we could decide that receiving and rushing yards were the same -- lump them together, score them at the same rate, and have one bonus threshold for this yardage pool. I'd have to do some math on that, but it could be feasible.
2) Account for the Yardage Lost During a Sack in Defensive Points
It is something that seems to be common in box scores now and I just wondered if it maybe deserves some notice. Maybe we would lump this in with return yards?
Killing Kickers!Obviously no actual kickers will be harmed. But we don't need them on our rosters! Or mucking up games or wasting draft picks!
Here's the full list before I spend more pixels on kickers.
1) Eliminate the Kicker / Add 3rd WR / Otherwise Tweak Scoring?
2) Account for the Yardage Lost During a Sack in Defensive Points
1) Eliminate the Kicker / Add 3rd WR
If we removed kickers there are a couple of things we would have to consider. Perhaps the most important would be trying to keep our historical balance between offense and defense. Kickers may be silly but they are also a pretty consistent source of 8 points every week and I don't think we want to increase the frequency of 0-0 ties.
My proposal for how to make up that point potential is to add a 3rd WR spot to the starting roster and increase the value of receiving yards (also increasing the cutoff for bonus receiving yard points). Based on scores from that last 2 years that would increase median RB points from 8.8 to 10 and WR points from 4.8 to 7.5. Lets assume that the 3rd WR would be worth less than 7.5 because we are dipping deeper into the talent pool but we still end up more than making up for the lost scoring.
These scoring changes would also do a couple other interesting things: a) It would bring QBs, RBs, and WRs much closer in value which might give more teams more ways to construct their team for success. b) It would smooth out that weird double bump in WR scores I noted last week. The new distribution looks a lot more like a long-tail although we'd be adding a lot more data points to this chart so that might change it some as well.
The RB curve did not change much. It just shifted up a little.
Finally, I think there is a lot of depth at the WR position these days. I don't sense that teams have much trouble finding at least passable WRs and I don't see much of an active market for top end WRs either. Basically I think the supply of WRs is bigger than the demand and this would increase demand.
Obviously we could tweak the details of scoring to get things right where we want. Including tweaking defensive scoring as needed or desired.
Alternately, if we wanted that extra position to be a flex position (RB/WR) we could decide that receiving and rushing yards were the same -- lump them together, score them at the same rate, and have one bonus threshold for this yardage pool. I'd have to do some math on that, but it could be feasible.
2) Account for the Yardage Lost During a Sack in Defensive Points
It is something that seems to be common in box scores now and I just wondered if it maybe deserves some notice. Maybe we would lump this in with return yards?
4 Comments:
Well I'm not opposed to getting rid of kickers, because there's a really random element to them that you just can't even predict. It's one thing to have your running back have a shitty day, or have the team fall behind early and abandon the run. It's entirely different when your team just happens to kick 5 FG's and your kicker is blessed with tons of points.
I'm just a little concerned about that third WR slot. I play in a 12 or 14 man league every year and it can get pretty slim trying to fill only 2 WR slots. Now that league separates out TE's into their own slot, so I don't really know how that difference affects this league, but I'm still wary.
And how exactly were you going to increase points for yardage? You showed the charts, but I didn't see the difference between old and new systems.
... and I am completely indifferent to the lost yardage thing.
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My thoughts:
1. Do we want to get rid of kickers entirely? Maybe drop PAT's? and only count the FG's? I am in favor of adding a slot for another RB/WR/TE and adjusting the scoring to make it worth a fixed amount for rushing or receiving.
2. Agree with Chris. Completely indifferent to this one as well. As long as it isn't an administrative nightmare, whatever.
The chart assumes two things:
1) receiving yards are scored at the same rate as rushing yards. (Currently receiving is 1 pt per 20 yds and rushing is 1 / 14, so both would be 1 / 14). It also moves the threshold for bonus pts based on receiving yards from 160 to 210 to take into account adding another WR.
I think scarcity is an important concept for our rules. Yea, including TEs with WRs helps us. But here's the 3rd WRs (based on just my eye-ball test) for every team currently: Dez Bryant, Julius Thomas, Vincent Jackson, Pierre Garcon, Vernon Davis, Greg Jennings, James Jones, Emmanual Sanders, Doug Baldwin, T.Y. Hilton, Cecil Shorts, Michael Crabtree. Sure, maybe I picked the wrong guy for some teams and some teams have more depth than others. But that doesn't look too shabby to me.
Obviously the next thing we will do is assign the rules committee to buckle down on these ideas over the next ... period of time.
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